"We have been trying to look only at individuals, and they are not the causes, only symptoms.

"For example, a poor man is forced to steal in certain circumstances. If you really want justice to be restored, his poverty should be removed. But no, you throw the poor man into jail for a few years, and you create more injustice in the society – because then his children are bound to become beggars, or pickpockets; his wife is bound to become a prostitute.

"And the man you have jailed for a few years – you have taken away his humanity, his pride, his self-respect; you have humiliated him so much that back in the society he will find himself a stranger who nobody trusts, who cannot get a job, who everybody avoids. Nobody wants to be friends with him. He is again forced to steal.

"It is a known fact that once a man is forced into jail as a punishment, he automatically comes back again and again to the jail. In the long run, the jail becomes his home, he becomes a jailbird. The outside world is just a holiday resort. Once in a while he is out in the world – but the world is not accepting of the man, does not treat him on equal terms with other human beings. Insulted, he also becomes revengeful.

"Revenge cannot create anything else except revenge. Hate creates more hate, revenge creates more revenge.

"In the jail he becomes more and more of an expert. He is no longer an amateur – the first time he was an amateur. In jail, which should almost be named a university for crimes, a teaching school, a productive field for criminals…in jail he learns that it is not the crime that is punished, it is being caught that is punished. Don't be caught, and you have not committed the crime. There are senior experts in the jail; they teach the novice, they initiate him into the secrets of the criminal world. Each time he comes out of the jail, he is more mature as far as crime is concerned.

"But perhaps the old humanity was not interested in removing crime completely."