"The moment you speak of it, even knowing becomes knowledge; that's why all those who have known, they say it cannot be said. The moment you speak of it, the very nature of it changes; it has become knowledge. It is no more the beautiful alive phenomenon of knowing.

"Knowing has no past, it has no future, it has only the present. And remember, present is not part of time.

"People ordinarily think that time is divided between past, future and present. They are absolutely wrong. Time is divided between past and future, present is not a part of time at all. You cannot catch hold of it in time. Pursue it and you will miss. Try to grasp it and it will always be out of your reach, because it is part of eternity not part of time.

"Present is eternity crossing time. It is a meeting point where eternity and the temporal meet.

"In the present is knowing, in the past is knowledge – and knowledge creates future, past creates future. Future is a by-product of the past.

"Whenever you know, you start planning. The more you know, the more you plan. Knowing means the past, planning means the future – then you don't allow the future freedom, you try to fix it into the pigeonholes of the past. You would like it to be just a repetition of the past, howsoever modified, decorated – but just a repetition of the past.

"A man of knowledge is a man of planning, and life is an unplanned flow. Life is freedom. You cannot pigeonhole it, you cannot categorize it. That's why a man of knowledge misses life. He knows much, and he knows nothing. He knows too much and he is just empty and hollow. You cannot find more shallow a person than a man of knowledge. He is just surface and surface, he has no depth, because depth comes through eternity.

"Time is horizontal, it moves in a line on the horizon. Eternity is vertical, it moves into depth and height. That is the meaning of Jesus' cross: time crossing eternity, or eternity crossing time. Jesus' hands are time, they move into past and future, crucified in time, resurrected into eternity."