Transcending the Seven Bodies
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From:The Psychology of the Esoteric
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"You can translate them. The West has not searched in that direction, but Western mysticism has words, terms for it. Jung is better than Freud as far as the search beyond the superficial consciousness is..."
"You can translate them. The West has not searched in that direction, but Western mysticism has words, terms for it. Jung is better than Freud as far as the search beyond the superficial consciousness is..."
Osho continues:
"D. Ouspensky. …Something in fragments, and those fragments can be put together.
"And your own experience can be of much help. I have also spoken in your terminology. I have only used one word which is not in Western languages: the seventh, the nirvanic body. The other six – the physical, the etheric, the astral, the mental, the spiritual and the cosmic – these six words are not Indian. Only one, the seventh, nirvanic, is Indian, because in the West the seventh has never been talked about. It is not because there were not persons who knew about it, but because the seventh is something which is impossible to communicate.
"If you find it difficult, then you can simply use 'the first body,' 'the second,' 'the third,' 'the fourth,' 'the fifth,' 'the seventh.' Don't use any term. Just use first, second, third, fourth – and describe them. The description will be the right thing, terminology is of no consequence.
"These seven bodies can be approached from so many directions. And as far as dreaming is concerned, Freudian, Jungian and Adlerian terms can be used. What they know as the conscious, what they designate as the conscious, is the first body. The unconscious is the second – not exactly the same, but nearer to it. What they call the 'collective unconscious' is the third body – not exactly the same, but something approximating to it.
"And if there are no common terms in usage, new terms can be coined. That is always better because new terms have no old connotations. So when a newly-coined term is used, because of no previous association, it becomes more significant and is understood more deeply. One is not in the state of mind which already knows. When something unknown, esoteric in meaning, is used then it penetrates our habitual mind much more deeply. So you can coin new words.
"The etheric means that which is concerned with the sky, space. The astral means the minutest, the sukshma, the last one, the atomic, beyond which matter ceases to exist. For the mental there is no difficulty. For the spiritual too there is no difficulty. For the cosmic too.
"Then you have the seventh, the nirvanic."
"And your own experience can be of much help. I have also spoken in your terminology. I have only used one word which is not in Western languages: the seventh, the nirvanic body. The other six – the physical, the etheric, the astral, the mental, the spiritual and the cosmic – these six words are not Indian. Only one, the seventh, nirvanic, is Indian, because in the West the seventh has never been talked about. It is not because there were not persons who knew about it, but because the seventh is something which is impossible to communicate.
"If you find it difficult, then you can simply use 'the first body,' 'the second,' 'the third,' 'the fourth,' 'the fifth,' 'the seventh.' Don't use any term. Just use first, second, third, fourth – and describe them. The description will be the right thing, terminology is of no consequence.
"These seven bodies can be approached from so many directions. And as far as dreaming is concerned, Freudian, Jungian and Adlerian terms can be used. What they know as the conscious, what they designate as the conscious, is the first body. The unconscious is the second – not exactly the same, but nearer to it. What they call the 'collective unconscious' is the third body – not exactly the same, but something approximating to it.
"And if there are no common terms in usage, new terms can be coined. That is always better because new terms have no old connotations. So when a newly-coined term is used, because of no previous association, it becomes more significant and is understood more deeply. One is not in the state of mind which already knows. When something unknown, esoteric in meaning, is used then it penetrates our habitual mind much more deeply. So you can coin new words.
"The etheric means that which is concerned with the sky, space. The astral means the minutest, the sukshma, the last one, the atomic, beyond which matter ceases to exist. For the mental there is no difficulty. For the spiritual too there is no difficulty. For the cosmic too.
"Then you have the seventh, the nirvanic."
| Publisher | Osho International |
|---|---|
| Duration of Talk | 131 mins |
| File Size | 28.27 MB |
| Type | Individual Talks |
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